If you look in the GTX 512 Mb review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2607...">7800 GTX 512MB
you see in Battlefield2 1600 x 1200 with 4xaa the stock 7800GTX is getting 42.9 fps compared to this article where the EVGA gets 43.6 fps! Also the GT was running on a FX-55 2.6GHz and the GTX was on a FX-57 (2.8GHz)
I own this card and think its a great value, to be able to come so close to and even sometimes outperform the GTX at $450. I can't wait to add card #2.
I didn't see what drivers were used in this review, but the other review used nForce4 6.82. Also this review showed 1 Gb of ram, other review doesn't mention ammount of ram used. Am I the only one who looks between diferent benchmarks to compare, would be great to see more comparisons (graphics cards) on same test bed, like the other posts mentioned. That way you can really show what value the cards are.
there was only 2000 asus led version cards made most went to review sites. I was looking back when they came out I even called and got the model number and a second internal number found out only 2000 were made kinda like a paper launch... and all the sites say this is a sweet looking card, yet 90% of the people reading the reviews will end up with a boarding green pcp... so I bought a bfg and used nonconditive uv paint to paint it bright green. But review sites should point out that people will not get a cool looking slow card from asus with crappy warrenty compared to bfg, xfx, evga.
If anyone is shocked by the power usage numbers, remember that the system is using a notoriously inefficient PowerStream. The DC power draw is probably close to 200W, which is how power supplies are rated.
you are dreaming, yes. i see two eVGA models on newegg, N515 for $309 (actually 289 after MIR) and N518 for $379. Well guess what, the cheaper variant uses a cheaper aluminium cooler, which doesnt give you much hope for further overclocking :/ None of those two variants are the "CO" edition from this roundup, the CO's clocks are said to be 470/1100, the two models on newegg are clocked 445/1070.
this is what i was talking about in my above post... the roundup doesn't really show you the differences between the various cards :/ and i bet other people will make the same mistake as you and confuse one card with another.
still, for the $289 price that card is a bargain. i just want to be sure you realise it's not the same one reviewed here.
I have the XFX 7800 GT. I took this one over the other because it came with an additional game - Call of Duty 2 (free after you submit a rebate form - took only about 2 weeks!)
It's the full DVD version and that right there saved me $50 - so the total cost of the card to me (since I was planning on getting COD2 anyway) was about $275!
a roundup of cards that are virtually identical... oh how interesting.
well. they aren't really identical. but i'd appreciate an article that shows me the differences more clearly, focuses on the differences. like which cards are using the stock cooler and which use custom ones, what are the memory ratings for the various brands etc... even what games/extras are included in each brand's package. a single good comparison table can speak much more than your numerous benchmarks. after all, benchmark results are just proportionate to the clock/mem speeds... the way you structured this roundup, i have to hunt around it for the real differences among these cards.
why isn't newegg showing on the Anandtech price finder? the e-vga can be had for $309 and that's before a $20.00 rebate which drops it to $289. So add newegg to your price engine thingy :)
It is fully understandable that the EVGA and XFX cards get the nod in this test. I would be willing to bet that some owners of these cards will be frequent visitors to the AT forums complaining about "graphics" problems(artifacts/ripping tearing). Both of these cards come from the factory apparently OC so close to the max line the it is inconcievable that they are all going to behave themselves in the real world environment once volume numbers of these cards are in the hands of the buying public. You can bet that not every card that goes out the door at these clock speeds has been thoughly burned in to confirm they can actually run at these speeds for an "extended" duration of time. There are bound to be chipsets and memory modules in finished products that will not perform well at those clock speeds for extended periods. Perhaps the saving grace here though is that you can always lower the clock speeds back towards the referance points and probably fix the issues that "may" occur.
Perhaps but stastically, the portion of cards sold vs. cards that have problems will be small (hopefully) and with their lifetime warranties, you can always send it back, ableit at the cost of your own shipping. C'est la vie I suppose. But I think christmas time is going to be bringing me a XFX 7800GT and some kind of NF4 mobo. :)
I appreciate this write up - the holidays are here, and many of us are in the market for a video card, so this comparison is helpfull. Your comparison of the cards, and your power and overclocking results were nice to see. Nice choice of games for a quick review as well. That said:
1) Why did you overclock the cards, and then not test the overclocked cards in the three games you choose? This is especially important considering the plateau issue with OC'ing the cards - maybe the eVGA would have jumped to the next level of performance, making it the clear choice.
2) Why oh why does Anandtech insist on not including any other cards in so many of its video articles. PLEASE PLEASE just add a 7800GTX and a X850XT to the chart. If you really went all out and showed us the 3 7800GTs, the same cards OC'd, the 7800GTX, the X850XT, a 6800GS, and either a X800GTO or an X800XL then this comparison might actually help someone decide whether or not to upgrade and what card they should buy to get their desired level of performance.
Seriousely AT, just comparing the overclocked 7800GT to a GTX and a 6800GS would be so helpfull for someone buying a card this month, you all should have been able to realize that.
Ditto. I also wouldn't mind seeing a few other processors that more or less reflect the average user thrown into the review. You know maybe like a 3700 E4, an X2 3800+, or an Opteron would be useful for a lot more people that are thinking about adding a 7800GT.
Agreed. The flashy adds on either side of the article are plenty and should generate sufficient revenue. There is no justification to throw annoying pop-up ads into the mix especially on an enthusiast site.
You are absolutely right, that was the image of a normal eVGA 7800 GT. We've updated it with an image of the eVGA 7800 GT CO. Thanks for pointing that out.
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MadAd - Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - link
Still no word on the comparitive fan noise?semiconductorslave - Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - link
If you look in the GTX 512 Mb review here:http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2607...">7800 GTX 512MB
you see in Battlefield2 1600 x 1200 with 4xaa the stock 7800GTX is getting 42.9 fps compared to this article where the EVGA gets 43.6 fps! Also the GT was running on a FX-55 2.6GHz and the GTX was on a FX-57 (2.8GHz)
I own this card and think its a great value, to be able to come so close to and even sometimes outperform the GTX at $450. I can't wait to add card #2.
I didn't see what drivers were used in this review, but the other review used nForce4 6.82. Also this review showed 1 Gb of ram, other review doesn't mention ammount of ram used. Am I the only one who looks between diferent benchmarks to compare, would be great to see more comparisons (graphics cards) on same test bed, like the other posts mentioned. That way you can really show what value the cards are.
jiulemoigt - Friday, December 9, 2005 - link
there was only 2000 asus led version cards made most went to review sites. I was looking back when they came out I even called and got the model number and a second internal number found out only 2000 were made kinda like a paper launch... and all the sites say this is a sweet looking card, yet 90% of the people reading the reviews will end up with a boarding green pcp... so I bought a bfg and used nonconditive uv paint to paint it bright green. But review sites should point out that people will not get a cool looking slow card from asus with crappy warrenty compared to bfg, xfx, evga.yacoub - Friday, December 9, 2005 - link
Up to what level of temperature (Celcius) is safe for a GPU to maintain without impacting its expected lifespan and performance (ie, lockup/failure)?fbrdphreak - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Discussion thread on this article:http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid...">http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid...
Slaimus - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
If anyone is shocked by the power usage numbers, remember that the system is using a notoriously inefficient PowerStream. The DC power draw is probably close to 200W, which is how power supplies are rated.segagenesis - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Is that too good to be true... the EVGA is barely over $300 on newegg? I hope I'm not, because I think I just found my new video card.Visual - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
you are dreaming, yes. i see two eVGA models on newegg, N515 for $309 (actually 289 after MIR) and N518 for $379. Well guess what, the cheaper variant uses a cheaper aluminium cooler, which doesnt give you much hope for further overclocking :/ None of those two variants are the "CO" edition from this roundup, the CO's clocks are said to be 470/1100, the two models on newegg are clocked 445/1070.this is what i was talking about in my above post... the roundup doesn't really show you the differences between the various cards :/ and i bet other people will make the same mistake as you and confuse one card with another.
still, for the $289 price that card is a bargain. i just want to be sure you realise it's not the same one reviewed here.
segagenesis - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Thanks, yet its still not bad at all for a 7800GT even if its stock. I was under the assumption still that 7800GT cards were still $400 or so.Spacecomber - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Is there any difference in the fan noise generated by these three models?ElFenix - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
i would like to know the volume and character of the fan noise as well please.Night201 - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
I have the XFX 7800 GT. I took this one over the other because it came with an additional game - Call of Duty 2 (free after you submit a rebate form - took only about 2 weeks!)It's the full DVD version and that right there saved me $50 - so the total cost of the card to me (since I was planning on getting COD2 anyway) was about $275!
Can't beat that (at this time at least)!
Visual - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
a roundup of cards that are virtually identical... oh how interesting.well. they aren't really identical. but i'd appreciate an article that shows me the differences more clearly, focuses on the differences. like which cards are using the stock cooler and which use custom ones, what are the memory ratings for the various brands etc... even what games/extras are included in each brand's package. a single good comparison table can speak much more than your numerous benchmarks. after all, benchmark results are just proportionate to the clock/mem speeds... the way you structured this roundup, i have to hunt around it for the real differences among these cards.
bob661 - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
I think this would be a good idea.ashegam - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
why isn't newegg showing on the Anandtech price finder? the e-vga can be had for $309 and that's before a $20.00 rebate which drops it to $289. So add newegg to your price engine thingy :)KristopherKubicki - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
You mean this one right?http://labs.anandtech.com/search.php?q=evga%207800...">http://labs.anandtech.com/search.php?q=evga%207800...
Kristopher
deathwalker - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
It is fully understandable that the EVGA and XFX cards get the nod in this test. I would be willing to bet that some owners of these cards will be frequent visitors to the AT forums complaining about "graphics" problems(artifacts/ripping tearing). Both of these cards come from the factory apparently OC so close to the max line the it is inconcievable that they are all going to behave themselves in the real world environment once volume numbers of these cards are in the hands of the buying public. You can bet that not every card that goes out the door at these clock speeds has been thoughly burned in to confirm they can actually run at these speeds for an "extended" duration of time. There are bound to be chipsets and memory modules in finished products that will not perform well at those clock speeds for extended periods. Perhaps the saving grace here though is that you can always lower the clock speeds back towards the referance points and probably fix the issues that "may" occur.deathwalker - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Interesting that Newegg sells a version of this card that is clocked at 445/1070.Leper Messiah - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Perhaps but stastically, the portion of cards sold vs. cards that have problems will be small (hopefully) and with their lifetime warranties, you can always send it back, ableit at the cost of your own shipping. C'est la vie I suppose. But I think christmas time is going to be bringing me a XFX 7800GT and some kind of NF4 mobo. :)deathwalker - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Santa is going to be kind to you...have you been a "good" boy?Sunrise089 - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
I appreciate this write up - the holidays are here, and many of us are in the market for a video card, so this comparison is helpfull. Your comparison of the cards, and your power and overclocking results were nice to see. Nice choice of games for a quick review as well. That said:1) Why did you overclock the cards, and then not test the overclocked cards in the three games you choose? This is especially important considering the plateau issue with OC'ing the cards - maybe the eVGA would have jumped to the next level of performance, making it the clear choice.
2) Why oh why does Anandtech insist on not including any other cards in so many of its video articles. PLEASE PLEASE just add a 7800GTX and a X850XT to the chart. If you really went all out and showed us the 3 7800GTs, the same cards OC'd, the 7800GTX, the X850XT, a 6800GS, and either a X800GTO or an X800XL then this comparison might actually help someone decide whether or not to upgrade and what card they should buy to get their desired level of performance.
Seriousely AT, just comparing the overclocked 7800GT to a GTX and a 6800GS would be so helpfull for someone buying a card this month, you all should have been able to realize that.
Zenbeatnik - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Ditto. I also wouldn't mind seeing a few other processors that more or less reflect the average user thrown into the review. You know maybe like a 3700 E4, an X2 3800+, or an Opteron would be useful for a lot more people that are thinking about adding a 7800GT.ksherman - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
I am NOT likin the little circuit city popup... dont tell me AT is getting into popups...icepik - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Agreed. The flashy adds on either side of the article are plenty and should generate sufficient revenue. There is no justification to throw annoying pop-up ads into the mix especially on an enthusiast site.KristopherKubicki - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Hi,The banner ad is rogue - some 3rd party advertiser has it inserted in one of their streams. We are working on getting rid of it ASAP.
Kristopher
shabby - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Firefox + adblock = no ads, periodbupkus - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
Ditto. I really hate those things. I tried to tell myself that it costs to run this site but can't help how I feel about pop-ups.bupkus - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
I guess the close button on the pop-up is timed to stay open for a specified time. IOW, it doesn't work.phaxmohdem - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
No sh8t I hate those stupid animated pops as well. Come on anand, WTF???Back on topic, that Asus card looks frickin sweet IMO. Would be a great centerpiece for a flashy system build.
toattett - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
I don't think the picture of Anandtech's eVGA 7800GT CO is correct.Josh Venning - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
You are absolutely right, that was the image of a normal eVGA 7800 GT. We've updated it with an image of the eVGA 7800 GT CO. Thanks for pointing that out.tjpark1111 - Thursday, December 8, 2005 - link
hmm a 7800gt roundup now?? anyways, how bout some temps? ive heard XFX cards run all too hot...ghd nz - Monday, January 7, 2013 - link
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